20 thoughts on ““Who the Hell’s Voting for Donald Trump?””

    2. Thanks for your comment.

      I see our current political conflict as an extension of the American Civil War.

      That war never ended and the history of the U.S. sis one of skirmishes between the two conflicting views of democracy: one that see equal rights for all citizens as an imperative and another that sees equality as exclusive to whites.

      The two sides switch political parties, with the Democratic Party once occupying the political terrain now occupied by the GOP. But the conflict doesn’t change; and I suspect it never will.

      3. I agree that one side is definitely holding out on the equal perks, but I don’t think race is the only precluding factor. There are plenty of poor Whites in America too, and I’m pretty sure the republicans would love to keep them that way.

      4. Just my two cents but I think Dhump is appealing to poor whites by using minorities, Blacks, Hispanics, Muslims, etc… as scapegoats or the reason why they are not more successful. Same as hitler did to the Jews in Germany.

      5. Yes, you’re not alone in that opinion. Unfortunately, it also appeals to a lot of rich Whites of power who don’t want to see that power threatened by incoming immigrants either, no matter their race. They know what a lot of people don’t know. A lot of immigrants are educated, especially those from the Caribbean and India. I have two degrees and a professional certification. My stepdad has a masters and his sister just finished med school. Immigrants are not all the uneducated criminals Trump makes us out to be…

      6. Yes! I agree 100%. Many of my co-workers at the museum are very well-educated and speak multiple languages. Trump is a dingbat. He plays up those old stereotypes of immigrants and Blacks as criminals, thugs, drug addicts, living off welfare, etc… I have my BA in English, care for my brother Stephen who has Autism and I served my country in the U.S. Army for four years and was honorably discharged yet the ilk of Trump only see a stereotype. Please take a look at this video I received from my union. White people are getting cheated and run over by Trump also!! We all must band together for the good of Our country! Many Thanks.

        Donald Trump’s Bad Deals: Marty Rosenberg on Trump Taj Mahal | Election 2016 | AFL-CIO Video
        https://youtu.be/r7j86EC6gAM

      8. Oh yes…I know, I was one if them. As early as 1822 the Southern ruling class discussed the use of white labor to replace slaves:

        “The average price of tradesmen and others, bought and sold in Charleston, is also considerably higher than that of field slaves, whereby the interest on capital is proportionally enhanced. Where they have not families to keep up the stock, the maintenance of two, for one efficient workman, should not be charged against them, but the insurance on life must be substituted, which, it is presumed, would there be very high. Sufficient data are not at hand to form a precise estimate of the whole expense of a Charleston black mechanic or house servant. But from the above statement, it must greatly exceed that of the field slaves. And when the draw-backs from his efficiency are considered, it is probable that the labor of white men will, on the whole, be as cheap as that of the slave.” Thoughts on a Slave Revolt 1822

        The document was available on the Internet Archive but I can’t find it now.

        The gist of the writers thinking is that Blacks must never occupy the same positions as whites because the whites will ‘feel’ like slaves.

        As early as 1822 members of the elite understood that the best way to keep white labor cheap was to create a class system that allowed whites to feel superior to blacks.

        “At least I’m not Black.”

        This post is based in part on that document:

        http://wp.me/p47Ymh-18V

      9. Wow!! This dialogue is so great. While I was reading Rob’s response I thought about the Dread Scott decision. So much knowledge. Let’s keep sharing and keep the knowledge moving and grooving!! Thank you very much!!

      13. I suppose that make sense, but in Jamaica, before it adopted slavery, it used white indentured labourers.

        When slavery was abolished in 1834, they then went back to indentured labourers, but this time from the Chinese and Indians. Many Blacks refused to return to the plantations because they didn’t want to feel like slaves again either.

      14. We may be one of the first advanced civilizations to completely do away with the outright capture and sale of human beings as property.

        The fact that we’re still fighting people who think slavery is a function of God’s Natural Order is a sign of progress.

        But we have new forms of covert slavery in the for profit prison system and in a service industry that maximizes profit by paying substandard wages.

        Any economic system that creates a class of people who live on the edge of homelessness is an economic system that breeds slavery.
        I guess we have to keep learning that regulated Capitalism and a Government that funds public services and promotes education is the only way to have a healthy democracy.

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